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Telstar
Member Jan 9th 9:42 AM
Here we go again. :)
Now that we've done MD, it's NM's turn. Here is the list:

TOP 20 ALLIANCES, IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER

AoD
Arrow
CWG
Elitez
Genesis
ICN
IX
LaF
League
Legacy
MD
NM
Omega
PoW
RAGE
SoF
SOL
TheCult
TIE
UCN

Note: These are NOT ranked by value of the alliance. This list is ONLY to say (in no worthwhile order) what alliances are generally considered top 20.

Also, skip to the very end of my next post if you don't care to read long posts, or you already know what's going on.

Telstar
Member Jan 9th 9:42 AM
THIS IS TOO LONG, WHY SHOULD I READ IT?
Don't, if you don't want to. Just check for the section titles and read what you care about. Check the end for a recap on exactly what I'm looking for without using too many words to hurt your poor aching head. ;)

HOW DID I COME UP WITH THIS LIST?

I took the initial list from the first The Rank Project thread, and took everyones suggestions and formed a new list from everyone's opinions.

Fortunately, the list wasn't ambiguous enough to where I needed to make personal decisions between "tied" alliances to determine who'd be on the list or not. In cases where one alliance had three votes for it, and one against it, and another had two votes for it, and none against it, I chose the one with no votes against it.

WHAT NEXT?

Now that Part I is done (selecting which alliances are top 20), here is Part II.

In this phase of The Rank Project, I ask that you all leave suggestions on what alliances FROM THE ABOVE LIST should generally be ranked BELOW the alliance currently being evaluated (today, NM) on any top 20 list. Do not mention if you think someone is tied with NM, or above NM. Only say who you think should be below them. Name as many alliances as you want, from the list.

WHY ASK WHO IS BELOW ANOTHER ALLIANCE?

I'm hoping that by asking who would be BELOW NM, rather than above NM, this will avoid extraneous arguments about who is better, when all we really care about right now is who is generally agreed to be ranked in a certain relation to NM.

WHY NOT JUST LOOK AT OTHER RANKINGS AND COMPARE?

The reason why I don't ask for everyone's own ranking of alliances is because that will be too difficult to fairly determine where most people put which alliances. With the method I am using, hopefully certain biases will be avoided and it will be more apparent that most people put alliance XXX below NM, rather than most people ranked XXX about 7 or 8 where NM was ranked between 3-5, along with many other alliances.

SO, WHAT WAS IT I SHOULD DO NOW?

1) Look at the list in the first post.
2) Think about NM.
3) Think what alliances belong BELOW (not tied with) NM.
4) Post here what you came up with.

IF (like any NM members actually speak) you are in NM:
5) Also tell me your thoughts on why you think NM is good/bad.

tttt
Member Jan 9th 10:04 AM
Below NM:

AoD
Arrow
CWG
ICN
League
Legacy
Omega
SOL
TheCult
TIE

NTL of PoW
Member Jan 9th 10:40 AM
UCN
Elitez
SoF
IX
MD
Arrow
PoW
SOL
LaF
Genesis
TIE
Legacy

NM

AoD
CWG
ICN
League
Omega
RAGE
TheCult

NoF
Member Jan 9th 11:00 AM
AoD
Arrow
CWG
ICN
Omega
RAGE
TheCult

Prdelka
Member Jan 9th 11:21 AM
KotA

Pedestrian
Member Jan 9th 11:25 AM
AoD
CWG
ICN
The League
Pow
The Cult
Rage

el maestroSEAWOLF
Member Jan 9th 11:51 AM
#1.SEAWOLF!!

Exeter
Member Jan 9th 12:07 PM
AOD
CWG
POW
CULT
ICN
League
RAGE
Arrow

Loafer
Member Jan 9th 12:38 PM
AoD
Arrow
CWG
ICN
Legacy
RAGE
TheCult

ageon
Member Jan 9th 12:40 PM
AoD
CWG
ICN
league
pow
The Cult

Gericht
Member Jan 9th 2:46 PM
Elitez
Genesis
LaF
NM

AoD
Arrow
CWG
ICN
IX
League
Legacy
MD
Omega
PoW
RAGE
SoF
SOL
TheCult
TIE
UCN

UBer Rooster
Member Jan 9th 3:13 PM
Omega
PoW
RAGE
SoF
SOL
TheCult
TIE
UCN

NoSKILL
New Member Jan 9th 10:08 PM
AoD
Arrow
CWG
ICN
IX
League
Omega
PoW
RAGE
SoF
SOL
TheCult
TIE
UCN

Shadow Hunter
Member Jan 9th 10:10 PM
hmmm will these post ever stop?

kayo
Member Jan 9th 10:44 PM

Arrow
CWG
Elitez
Genesis
IX
LaF
Legacy
MD
Omega
RAGE
SoF
SOL
TheCult
TIE
UCN

NM

League
ICN
AoD
PoW

Nerobia
Member Jan 10th 1:53 AM
Spent my days in NM, so I can say a few things here on the #5 question you had...

Why NM is good, also is one of its downfalls... The members there are usually very disaplined and this can lead to it becoming to "serious" at times...

While striving to keep clean, NM also ends up being forgotten about at many times due to the lack of public exposure... Members not visiting AT is no coincedence...

Many members are attracted to NM's style because they are one of the most "mature" alliances around, which is suprising due to the members real personalities... Many people would not play in NM due to the leval of "maturity" that it takes... The excellent diplomatic work of people like LadyGrizz is also a double edged sword, some people like it, others don't... Members are not forced to like other alliances, but they are forced to respect them... If one wants to be respected, they must show respect as well after all...

Telstar Member	Jan 9th 9:42 AM Here we go again. :) Now that we've done MD, it's NM's turn. Here is the list: TOP 20 ALLIANCES, IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER AoD Arrow CWG Elitez Genesis ICN IX LaF League Legacy MD NM Omega PoW RAGE SoF SOL TheCult TIE UCN Note: These are NOT ranked by value of the alliance. This list is ONLY to say (in no worthwhile order) what alliances are generally considered top 20. Also, skip to the very end of my next post if you don't care to read long posts, or you already know what's going on.
Telstar Member	Jan 9th 9:42 AM THIS IS TOO LONG, WHY SHOULD I READ IT? Don't, if you don't want to. Just check for the section titles and read what you care about. Check the end for a recap on exactly what I'm looking for without using too many words to hurt your poor aching head. ;) HOW DID I COME UP WITH THIS LIST? I took the initial list from the first The Rank Project thread, and took everyones suggestions and formed a new list from everyone's opinions. Fortunately, the list wasn't ambiguous enough to where I needed to make personal decisions between "tied" alliances to determine who'd be on the list or not. In cases where one alliance had three votes for it, and one against it, and another had two votes for it, and none against it, I chose the one with no votes against it. WHAT NEXT? Now that Part I is done (selecting which alliances are top 20), here is Part II. In this phase of The Rank Project, I ask that you all leave suggestions on what alliances FROM THE ABOVE LIST should generally be ranked BELOW the alliance currently being evaluated (today, NM) on any top 20 list. Do not mention if you think someone is tied with NM, or above NM. Only say who you think should be below them. Name as many alliances as you want, from the list. WHY ASK WHO IS BELOW ANOTHER ALLIANCE? I'm hoping that by asking who would be BELOW NM, rather than above NM, this will avoid extraneous arguments about who is better, when all we really care about right now is who is generally agreed to be ranked in a certain relation to NM. WHY NOT JUST LOOK AT OTHER RANKINGS AND COMPARE? The reason why I don't ask for everyone's own ranking of alliances is because that will be too difficult to fairly determine where most people put which alliances. With the method I am using, hopefully certain biases will be avoided and it will be more apparent that most people put alliance XXX below NM, rather than most people ranked XXX about 7 or 8 where NM was ranked between 3-5, along with many other alliances. SO, WHAT WAS IT I SHOULD DO NOW? 1) Look at the list in the first post. 2) Think about NM. 3) Think what alliances belong BELOW (not tied with) NM. 4) Post here what you came up with. IF (like any NM members actually speak) you are in NM: 5) Also tell me your thoughts on why you think NM is good/bad.
tttt Member	Jan 9th 10:04 AM Below NM: AoD Arrow CWG ICN League Legacy Omega SOL TheCult TIE
NTL of PoW Member	Jan 9th 10:40 AM UCN Elitez SoF IX MD Arrow PoW SOL LaF Genesis TIE Legacy NM AoD CWG ICN League Omega RAGE TheCult
NoF Member	Jan 9th 11:00 AM AoD Arrow CWG ICN Omega RAGE TheCult
Prdelka Member	Jan 9th 11:21 AM KotA
Pedestrian Member	Jan 9th 11:25 AM AoD CWG ICN The League Pow The Cult Rage
el maestroSEAWOLF Member	Jan 9th 11:51 AM #1.SEAWOLF!!
Exeter Member	Jan 9th 12:07 PM AOD CWG POW CULT ICN League RAGE Arrow
Loafer Member	Jan 9th 12:38 PM AoD Arrow CWG ICN Legacy RAGE TheCult
ageon Member	Jan 9th 12:40 PM AoD CWG ICN league pow The Cult
Gericht Member	Jan 9th 2:46 PM Elitez Genesis LaF NM AoD Arrow CWG ICN IX League Legacy MD Omega PoW RAGE SoF SOL TheCult TIE UCN
UBer Rooster Member	Jan 9th 3:13 PM Omega PoW RAGE SoF SOL TheCult TIE UCN
NoSKILL New Member	Jan 9th 10:08 PM AoD Arrow CWG ICN IX League Omega PoW RAGE SoF SOL TheCult TIE UCN
Shadow Hunter Member	Jan 9th 10:10 PM hmmm will these post ever stop?
kayo Member	Jan 9th 10:44 PM Arrow CWG Elitez Genesis IX LaF Legacy MD Omega RAGE SoF SOL TheCult TIE UCN NM League ICN AoD PoW
Nerobia Member	Jan 10th 1:53 AM Spent my days in NM, so I can say a few things here on the #5 question you had... Why NM is good, also is one of its downfalls... The members there are usually very disaplined and this can lead to it becoming to "serious" at times... While striving to keep clean, NM also ends up being forgotten about at many times due to the lack of public exposure... Members not visiting AT is no coincedence... Many members are attracted to NM's style because they are one of the most "mature" alliances around, which is suprising due to the members real personalities... Many people would not play in NM due to the leval of "maturity" that it takes... The excellent diplomatic work of people like LadyGrizz is also a double edged sword, some people like it, others don't... Members are not forced to like other alliances, but they are forced to respect them... If one wants to be respected, they must show respect as well after all...